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hello everybody this is Hiro paranormal

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and glad to have a very important and

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interesting guest I respect him very

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much

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it is Bruce Cornett dr. Bruce Cornett on

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the line I think we still have him here

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are you there Bruce yes

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oh that's wonderful I'm so happy to be

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able to have you on the podcast because

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I think you just bring such a amazing

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wealth of information to this genre if

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you if you want to call it that and I

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kind of wanted to see where this leads

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we we know that there's a lot going on

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with the to the stars Academy with a lot

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of UFOs in the news media you have a

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rigorous and impressive background in

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the subject matter and I just wanted to

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ask your opinion of what you think of

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all this it's kind of a circus yes to a

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certain degree it is and there have been

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a lot of questions as to what the

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objective or of these disclosures are

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and whether or not we can really trust

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them the one of the things that I am

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aware of is that you're dealing with the

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intelligence community in much of this

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and this has been pointed out by a

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number of different people Don Greenwald

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and others have commented on this

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problem of

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just how much if true information and

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how much disinformation is in these

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disclosures this is a big question but

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one of the things that seems to be quite

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certain is that they're trying to now to

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get the public its interest in the

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phenomena in order to raise the level of

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not just awareness but support for

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additional funding for such research by

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the government and by agencies like to

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the Stars Academy so there is a certain

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amount of of interest in the financing

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of all of this that goes on and which is

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always a big problem with you know this

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type of research and there is still a

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lot of people out there that are unaware

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of the phenomenon or who do not believe

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that we are being visited or have been

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and visited although if you think about

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it the various History Channel and

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Travel Channel documentaries on of the

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subject it's quite spectacular it's

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never nothing like this has ever

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happened before occasionally from time

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to time during the 80s and 90s we had

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events documentaries on the subject I

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think the one that got me started was

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the miniseries on television called

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intruders based on Budd Hopkins work and

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was supported by dr. John Mack and I at

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the time had not been aware that such

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interest in abductions was taking place

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as a somebody who worked in academia and

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was a a professional scientist we never

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talked about this type of material and

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it's that's going to be the the biggest

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challenge for the government is to get

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the scientific community to accept

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research funded research in the subject

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very well put I couldn't agree more

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I think this this is really it's come to

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a head it seems like a lot of it almost

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seems like it could redefine a lot of

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things religion among other things

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depending on people's views and it also

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I think you know religion was on one

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course and this is just my opinion and

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then there was a fork in the road and

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science went on another course and it

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this parts of science or at least those

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areas dealing with quantum mechanics and

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such are starting to kind of make that

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turn over to I don't want to say towards

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religion but some of the more esoteric

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or older views that were written in in

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in past times is is that do you think

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that's just perception on my behalf or

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is there any legitimacy to that

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no no not perception at all back in 1991

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my late wife she died and over her grave

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on video camera she appeared in spirit

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in the morning and that later I when

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computer graph processing came I could

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capture images from the video and I was

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able to reveal a huge circular dome

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shaped white mothership embedded in that

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cloud and at the time I did not realize

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that I had been abducted back in 1981

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wasn't until the 1992 that my awakening

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game and so what this did for me was to

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connect our spiritual existence with ETS

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and that was profound for me and then I

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was led to one contact after another

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individuals who were literally they

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claimed that they were working with this

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group that I was working with who are

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abducting me and they basically one of

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them gave me a book called Genesis by

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David Wood published in 1986 and when I

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read that I was blown away I had never

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been exposed to the esoteric subject in

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all of the different symbols that come

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Babylonia and it was profound

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web page called the original sin in

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which I revealed my concepts of what I

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learned from reading that book and other

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articles on the same subject

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so that yes in reply to your question

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that is how much does the esoteric and

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relate to all of this I would say that's

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just in one of the languages that has

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been used for those who do not want

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authorities such especially the church

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to know what they're saying and what

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they're talking about and the there's a

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lot of connection between all of the

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religions that derived from Abraham and

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entities or is it possible they could

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just simply be extraterrestrial groups

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that are interacting with humans on

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earth yes and and that I think you're a

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lot of it comes down to semantics a lot

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of individuals have have you know what

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celestial beings in the air are now seen

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as you know UFOs or aerial threats more

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and bolts when in reality we have

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possibly something more than that yes

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much more the free organization started

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headed by Ray Hernandez who was with his

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team put together this questionnaire

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this book 800 pages of questionnaires

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that were they analyzed them and

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basically said that the nuts and bolts

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aspect of this phenomena is very small

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so no more maybe than 15 to 20 percent

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where the rest of it is not nuts and

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bolts as we know it and therein lies the

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big gap between science and what is

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going on that the science has to come to

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our reality parts of our reality that

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are invisible and can only be detected

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mean without radio waves and we would

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not have our communication we would not

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don't know and science wants to stick to

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the nuts and bolts it wants physical

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evidence that it can capture and put

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we don't yet have the ability to resolve

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them in such a way that scientists can

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work with them but I think that's in

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part just a an illusion a delusion on

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the Prados I insist and and the

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government which is

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not wanted them to investigate these

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phenomena that's part of the problem yes

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and I if it's okay I'd like to go back

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to a comment you said about this book

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that you mentioned I believe you said it

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was Genesis is it now would that be

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Isis or is that yes okay it means the

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genes of Isis and a signal book with by

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would and Campbell this would be in

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called Jenna set and the genes of set

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mythologies of ancient Egypt and of Isis

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set Nexus and Osiris all of that but

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those are the the subjects that are

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common to many secret societies

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Rosicrucians to the Knights Templar they

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all study those ancient myths and they

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have their own interpretations of them

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and would and Campbell came out in their

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books with some unique and in very

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astounding interpretations that just

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blew me away and I began to realizing

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that they you know when you're including

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the area of Ren Loire chateaux

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in southern France a lot of amazing

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stuff is tied to that there's been a

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number of programs on the Travel Channel

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History Channel on the rennes-le-chateau

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mystery and how it relates to all of

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this because it connects to the idea

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that Jesus after he was resurrected

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stayed on earth came back to earth and

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with Mary Magdalene they went off and

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and lived in an area near Rennes le

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that there was that there are bloodlines

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Jesus that are still exists today this

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was the main underlying purpose for all

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of this these books is to trace the

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lineage of Jesus yeah I mean the

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mainstream has caught on a little bit

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with these down but the Dan Brown work

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bit aware of some of these things

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however the mainstream has really looked

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at it more from an entertainment

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perspective than a actual esoteric

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perspective or or that the way the

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teachings were really meant to be

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offered if if you were to make any

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correlations or comparisons let's say if

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there was some cross-pollination between

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our current situation with the to the

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Stars Academy and the possible I really

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liked what you said about the funding I

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do really think this has to do with

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money in many respects and the funding

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that may be needed for things like space

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force is there a connection there oh

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well some societies yeah I mean there's

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been some word with Tom DeLonge has

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spoken some about speaking with these

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high-level government people who he will

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not mention but many believe they know

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who they are and they have mentioned to

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Tom with whether he's being used by them

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or not that there are some things from

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the esoteric that were involved for

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example the Atlantean quote-unquote myth

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is not as mythical as many believe and

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other things do you think this could be

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related in any way to the possible

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funding of space force although we have

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kind of a bipartisan you know I from

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what I understand you know some is some

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are leaning more to the left some are

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more to the right but in reality with

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this subject matter I think it's

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important to just erase those lines

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because so much is being lost in the

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in the back-and-forth right in the

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identification of who's involved and why

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but one thing that does stand out is and

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I'm pretty sure you are familiar with

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this is that many people in government

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who work in to enforce the laws of our

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country belong to the secret societies

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the Masons in particular but also the

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Knights Templar and this is always

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fascinated me and that the these

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organizations for the most part the the

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secret information the important

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information that is talked about in

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Genesis and Genesis those books most of

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the members of these societies are

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unfamiliar with them you only get to

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know this these truths if you will when

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you get up into the high rank the 32nd

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33rd degrees of these societies and so

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the information is kept very close to

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their chest and not revealed and but

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then again you have the other side of it

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is that if you want to belong to these

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societies you have to literally swear on

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oath that you will always keep their

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information secret there you will not

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reveal any of it to any outsiders and if

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ever asked you will say I don't know no

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that never happened that's not correct

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in other words you will mislead people

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into thinking that you really don't have

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access to this information and that's

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one of the things I studied and it was

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rather fascinated by what the overall

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implications are is that who's really in

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control Brian who's a you know we all

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think about humans as being in control

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but I wonder if there's something even

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more than that of course those who in

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religion will say oh yes will you have

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God in all of his angels

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but that that can be debated as to who

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is god yes and and I really like the the

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information is power aspect of this as

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you said if this information is so

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highly regarded that it is secretive and

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that it isn't being shared then this

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information really is power and if it's

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being used by the classes that are

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governing the majority of the population

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I think that's evidence in itself

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however on a slightly different topic

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the capstone the missing capstone really

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to the pyramids that we often see is

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this something that could be an example

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of that otherworldly power

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I believe we're alluding to possible

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extraterrestrial celestial or otherwise

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unseen governance that is being well for

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lack of a better word in charge right

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yeah yeah absolutely the capstone by

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missing implies that that that authority

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is invisible to us it is secret and only

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those who are in direct communication

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with that those entities know of its

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existence existence so we have that a

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potential problem of in disclosure could

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disclosure of the stuff that we can see

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the nuts and bolts that we can videotape

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in photograph will that lead people then

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to want to know okay well who's running

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the show and and could expose more of

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who's really behind all of this but I

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think personally ancient aliens has

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brought a lot of this out and shown us

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through reinterpreting archaeological

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evidence that there

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is that the God so to speak did walk

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among us in ancient societies and they

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did help us teach us how to build

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pyramids and other architectural marvels

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and that that is important to know that

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we are now in a period where we could go

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back to a time when they are walking

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among us again and I have to ask the

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question or why do we have to think that

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they haven't come back in my own

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personal research and understanding and

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from what I've learned they've never

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left if all the state here has always

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been here and they've just stayed out of

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our view and in the shadows so to speak

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in their underground base's undersea

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bases and orbital ships they have stayed

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invisible to most of us and revealing

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that when it comes out is going to shake

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up a lot of people because even though

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we see a great interest now in the

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subject of UFOs and or UAP as i like to

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call them the problem is that this only

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is what people can see you know who are

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those who are standing up and saying

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count me in otherwise a large majority

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of people still are unaware that this is

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all taking place they when they see in

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our news item about of the government

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about the Navy and and naval pirate

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pilots talking about UFOs they they just

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close their ears and turn to another

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channel they don't want to deal with

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that subject they think it's ridiculous

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it is not happening and it's so where do

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you go when and when you have to educate

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the majority of people

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enough people if the government wants

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public support for more funding

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absolutely and it reminds me so much of

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some of the comments you said remind me

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so much of the interview with Bob

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Bigelow the famous interview with Bob

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Bigelow for those who are not familiar

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with mr. Bigelow he is probably the

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person at least in our generation that

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has done the most to study this out of

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his own pocket and I believe his words

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were along the lines of yes they are

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here and they're right under our nose

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and and people laughed at him and and I

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it it I was offended that you know some

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of the public found that amusing but

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right and you know getting getting back

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to this this funding is there a

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possibility in your opinion that these

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let's call them disclosure movements and

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there's many we don't have to use their

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names there are very different movements

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that have different theories and they

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all seem to have government connections

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is is there a possibility that this is

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in some way shape or form similar to

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like what we've seen in the 50s with

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control of the narrative oh yes

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absolutely the government if it's if

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can't remain in control is not

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government correct correct it has to

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have control of not just a narrative but

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of the people and of the I mean we're

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coming to a time when you're having a

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rift between

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science the science of archaeology and

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also the the facts that are being

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investigated again now by new

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investigators the so-called ancient

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ancient astronaut theorists who are

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looking at

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things in a different light are coming

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up with radically new interpretations

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that go very much against what is in the

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textbooks that you'll learn if you go to

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college and and major in archaeology and

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anthropology you'll get a very different

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view by mainstream science and now

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they're finding out that a lot of these

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things that we thought were true are

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rarely not for example dr. Bruce Fenton

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has come out with a book into Africa

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theory of human evolution in which he

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shows gives evidence that the oldest

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humans now have been documented in

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Australia along before that the time

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that we ever had any immigration out of

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Africa I mean you're talking about

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many tens of thousands if not hundreds

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of thousands of years ago and the humans

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existence is being pushed back further

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and further and we're finding that those

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early humans Homo sapiens walked among

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many other species very similar to us

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who were who could interbreed with us

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and thus there was a very mixed origin

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of humans you know thirty to a hundred

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thousand years ago that most theorists

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in in academia have not yet come to

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accept they were they're still all this

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idea that man evolved in Africa and it

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came out of Africa for now bruce fenton

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is saying no the evidence now points to

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australia and that they moved up through

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the the Indonesia and islands and then

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into eastern Asia and spread through

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Asia then down into Africa and then

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there was the Mount Toba a super

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volcanic explosion around 70,000 years

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ago that wiped out almost all of them

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and the remnant human survivors in

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southernmost Africa in several other

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places around

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the world they repopulated the the world

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but that was only after a bottleneck in

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human evolution where some theorists say

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they see genetic tracing all of the

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different races of humans back to the

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added so-called Adam and Eve the first

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humans that happened about the same time

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that Mount Toba explosion occurred and

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it also indicated that human genome our

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population was reduced to as little as

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five to ten thousand individuals and

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from that those survivors came we came

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from there Out of Africa and that was

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pretty amazing when you think about it

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that our history is so different and the

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truth may be so different from what the

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00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:24,279
experts in human evolution think

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actually happened I think that's just

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fascinating it reminds me of that common

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saying that the history is written by

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the victors

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you know you don't have to go back very

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many generations before people will just

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tend to forget this and yeah I I just

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think that's fascinating absolutely I

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mean much like dead Library of

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Alexandria and other places that we've

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seen more recently unfortunately some of

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them by our own hand places that have

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00:27:55,509 --> 00:27:53,239
just an Isis as well I mean I'm not

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talking about obviously the the deity

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00:28:01,899 --> 00:27:58,999
but the the group the terror group you

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00:28:05,529 --> 00:28:01,909
know it seems like we racing parts of

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these cultures and history is a tool

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that has worked very well in the past

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yeah like in Cambodia when all of the

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00:28:20,949 --> 00:28:17,599
intellectuals were slaughtered by what

510
00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:20,959
pot or whoever he was back then and in

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00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:23,329
the during the Vietnam War I mean it was

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mass genocide of intellectuals in order

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to rewrite history and we've seen this

514
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:34,879
time and time again on this planet even

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the biblical example of the Great Flood

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to remove all of the human humanoid

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populations that existed prior to that

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even though many of them still survived

519
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:51,200
that we now know an isolated areas that

520
00:28:56,350 --> 00:28:54,320
there's just more we discover the more

521
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:56,360
we dig the more we're gonna find and

522
00:29:01,600 --> 00:28:58,159
we're gonna have to revise our story

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00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:01,610
about where we came from and when but

524
00:29:07,180 --> 00:29:05,570
that is for certain and one of the

525
00:29:11,409 --> 00:29:07,190
things that I got involved with Ryan

526
00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:11,419
when in the early 90s I was introduced

527
00:29:17,710 --> 00:29:14,510
to Richard Hoagland at the time and I

528
00:29:20,830 --> 00:29:17,720
became part of his moon team he had

529
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:20,840
already published everything on Mars the

530
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:25,010
cydonia complex etc and I helped him do

531
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:28,880
some productions and I was the cameraman

532
00:29:37,529 --> 00:29:32,570
for him at a number of his Moon talks

533
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:40,779
but at that time I was going through my

534
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:45,049
awakening as to who what my relationship

535
00:29:52,210 --> 00:29:47,840
was to our visitors and who they were

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00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:52,220
and I was discovering that I was

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00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:54,970
connected to them in a much more

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00:30:02,289 --> 00:29:57,260
intimate fashion that I could ever

539
00:30:05,740 --> 00:30:02,299
possibly have imagined as I said earlier

540
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:05,750
than that I recorded my the spirit of my

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00:30:12,190 --> 00:30:08,480
late wife over her grave as it ascended

542
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:12,200
in a golden beam of light into a second

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Sun and then discovered that there was a

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00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:17,210
huge white mothership embedded in that

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00:30:25,060 --> 00:30:20,480
overhead cloud that began to resonate

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00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:25,070
with me that somehow my late wife was

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00:30:31,870 --> 00:30:28,730
connected to our visitors and then she

548
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:31,880
came back in spirit and we communicated

549
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:33,289
and we've haven't communicated ever

550
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:36,710
since and she taught me many many things

551
00:30:43,629 --> 00:30:40,250
and I I'm not afraid to you know reveal

552
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:43,639
this because I do real it in and a

553
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:46,690
number of my publications online and

554
00:30:55,220 --> 00:30:53,710
that she was one of the main individuals

555
00:30:57,740 --> 00:30:55,230
entities that

556
00:31:02,990 --> 00:30:57,750
was running this whole show and that was

557
00:31:05,419 --> 00:31:03,000
a surprise in the 23rd of October 1994 I

558
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:05,429
was introduced to my two of my three

559
00:31:11,419 --> 00:31:08,210
hybrid children who were born before

560
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:11,429
either a Bonnie or I had lost our

561
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:14,240
virginity by typical you know et

562
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:17,910
manipulation I I was abducted for sperm

563
00:31:24,289 --> 00:31:20,970
sample she became pregnant as a virgin

564
00:31:26,810 --> 00:31:24,299
at age 17 and then after four months

565
00:31:30,169 --> 00:31:26,820
pregnancy suddenly her pregnancy was

566
00:31:33,020 --> 00:31:30,179
ended and we know what happens now with

567
00:31:37,970 --> 00:31:33,030
all that's being revealed about alien

568
00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:37,980
hybrid interaction with humans and I was

569
00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:40,440
introduced to two of my three children

570
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:43,620
in astronaut suits floating in space

571
00:31:50,090 --> 00:31:46,710
next to an alien in a different type of

572
00:31:52,820 --> 00:31:50,100
decompression suit over my dead this was

573
00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:52,830
a projection from space a live

574
00:31:57,770 --> 00:31:55,590
projection in which they were moving and

575
00:31:59,770 --> 00:31:57,780
looking at me and I was moving around

576
00:32:03,730 --> 00:31:59,780
and looking at them through this

577
00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:03,740
two-dimensional screen and after this

578
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:08,520
vision was over I woke my wife who were

579
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:10,530
sleeping under II all of this and she

580
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:13,049
said I was I woke her in the middle of a

581
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:16,049
dream about me meeting my children and I

582
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:17,250
said well they didn't tell me their

583
00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:19,770
names in the vision and me she said in

584
00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:21,929
the dream there our names were an AR and

585
00:32:29,330 --> 00:32:25,260
Kyle so this just kept on escalating

586
00:32:32,299 --> 00:32:29,340
over and over again Ryan with more and

587
00:32:34,490 --> 00:32:32,309
more contact and it got to the point

588
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:34,500
that I was wondering you know who can I

589
00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:37,440
turn to I mean I I really empathize with

590
00:32:42,620 --> 00:32:40,440
all these people who are awakened to

591
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:42,630
their abductions and they can't go to a

592
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:44,970
psychiatrist or a psychologist there's

593
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:46,410
nobody out there other than other

594
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:49,110
abductees that they can share their

595
00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:51,600
information with without ridicule or

596
00:33:00,110 --> 00:32:55,260
even you know getting a label of being

597
00:33:03,950 --> 00:33:00,120
crazy and so I was in that type of a

598
00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:03,960
situation my wife was having a hard time

599
00:33:10,330 --> 00:33:08,000
believing what I was telling her and her

600
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:10,340
children who didn't believe what I was

601
00:33:16,150 --> 00:33:13,010
saying so there was a lot of conflict

602
00:33:18,460 --> 00:33:16,160
going on at that time and that is the

603
00:33:21,250 --> 00:33:18,470
time that I was traveling to Weehawken

604
00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:21,260
New Jersey to meet up with Hoagland and

605
00:33:25,930 --> 00:33:23,510
his team and seeing all of his evidence

606
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:25,940
about the moon so I was being bombarded

607
00:33:32,770 --> 00:33:28,130
with an enormous amount of information

608
00:33:36,460 --> 00:33:32,780
this is about 30 years ago on all of

609
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:36,470
what is now being revealed over and over

610
00:33:41,890 --> 00:33:40,250
again in order to educate the public one

611
00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:41,900
of the things that I discovered when I

612
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:46,310
was doing my geologic work there this

613
00:33:53,410 --> 00:33:50,720
was actually before I met Hoagland I was

614
00:33:57,070 --> 00:33:53,420
wanted to map the area where all of

615
00:34:01,030 --> 00:33:57,080
these sightings of uoit were occurring

616
00:34:04,150 --> 00:34:01,040
near Pine Bush New York and so I

617
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:04,160
borrowed a magnetometer from the

618
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:06,050
lamont-doherty Earth Observatory and

619
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:09,050
started a 24 square mile magnetic survey

620
00:34:14,409 --> 00:34:11,290
which took me three years to complete

621
00:34:17,290 --> 00:34:14,419
1,800 different stations and I generated

622
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:17,300
a map which was very interesting it

623
00:34:23,860 --> 00:34:20,960
showed that all of the European was

624
00:34:26,260 --> 00:34:23,870
associated with magnetic anomalies below

625
00:34:31,540 --> 00:34:26,270
ground and Ellen Crystal in her book

626
00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:31,550
1991 book silent invasion said that she

627
00:34:36,490 --> 00:34:32,960
thought there was an underground base

628
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:36,500
why because she would see ships diving

629
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:38,330
are these lights diving into the ground

630
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:42,169
and no explosion and others coming out

631
00:34:47,050 --> 00:34:44,960
of the ground and she saw many pieces of

632
00:34:49,899 --> 00:34:47,060
evidence that there were some something

633
00:34:52,780 --> 00:34:49,909
going on under the ground and during my

634
00:34:56,830 --> 00:34:52,790
11 years involvement and fieldwork I

635
00:34:59,770 --> 00:34:56,840
confirmed all of her suspicions but I

636
00:35:02,550 --> 00:34:59,780
had the scientific data that Magne the

637
00:35:05,490 --> 00:35:02,560
magnetic map that subset substantiated

638
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:05,500
that indeed there is underground

639
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:09,890
activity that is unlikely to be caused

640
00:35:17,770 --> 00:35:14,960
by humans and so but and the process of

641
00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:17,780
doing that I discovered I started

642
00:35:21,580 --> 00:35:19,460
discovering features on the surface as a

643
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:21,590
geologist who had done a lot of mapping

644
00:35:28,810 --> 00:35:25,090
I've started finding remnants of

645
00:35:31,930 --> 00:35:28,820
monuments and features on earth that

646
00:35:34,450 --> 00:35:31,940
match the sodon't of the features and

647
00:35:38,980 --> 00:35:34,460
the monuments in the cydonia complex on

648
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:38,990
Mars and this was largely came out of

649
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:41,450
the fact that Richard Hoagland had given

650
00:35:49,660 --> 00:35:45,890
a talk before on United Nations on the

651
00:35:52,030 --> 00:35:49,670
sill Silbury Hill and Avebury circle in

652
00:35:54,730 --> 00:35:52,040
England associated with all the UFO

653
00:35:59,020 --> 00:35:54,740
activity there and she and he had said

654
00:36:01,930 --> 00:35:59,030
that these are these monuments were like

655
00:36:05,950 --> 00:36:01,940
a one-sixth version of the the crater

656
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:05,960
and the pholis on earth and I had

657
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:09,410
already done something mapped the area

658
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:12,800
around Pine Bush and found remnants of a

659
00:36:18,810 --> 00:36:15,920
huge crater that nobody else had

660
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:18,820
discovered before and I was amazed

661
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:22,400
because the during the last ice age

662
00:36:26,740 --> 00:36:24,320
the glaciers came down that valley and

663
00:36:30,700 --> 00:36:26,750
toppled any structures more than maybe

664
00:36:33,250 --> 00:36:30,710
50 feet tall so if the all those

665
00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:33,260
pyramids that are in the cydonia complex

666
00:36:38,020 --> 00:36:35,510
of Mars all that would remain on earth

667
00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:38,030
would be their basis and when I realized

668
00:36:42,910 --> 00:36:41,260
this and after I had mapped this

669
00:36:46,660 --> 00:36:42,920
circular crater

670
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:46,670
I called Hoagland and I said what is the

671
00:36:52,570 --> 00:36:49,370
width of that crater on on Mars and he

672
00:36:54,940 --> 00:36:52,580
said 2.3 miles and I had already mapped

673
00:36:58,270 --> 00:36:54,950
it and I knew that the one I identified

674
00:37:01,300 --> 00:36:58,280
was 2.3 miles in diameter then I asked

675
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:01,310
him what is the latitude of that crater

676
00:37:06,370 --> 00:37:03,610
on Mars and he said contact his

677
00:37:09,490 --> 00:37:06,380
geologists and I did and it turned out

678
00:37:12,490 --> 00:37:09,500
to be the same latitude as the one on on

679
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:12,500
Mars they're both at 41 degrees 36

680
00:37:17,590 --> 00:37:14,930
minutes what is the probability of that

681
00:37:20,830 --> 00:37:17,600
once I've gotten that confirmation I

682
00:37:23,650 --> 00:37:20,840
said okay let me try to find the pholis

683
00:37:24,130 --> 00:37:23,660
because in his talk to the United

684
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:24,140
Nations

685
00:37:28,990 --> 00:37:26,810
he had emphasized Avebury Circle and the

686
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:29,000
silver Hill which represented the

687
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:33,730
fullest and I went off in the in the

688
00:37:38,099 --> 00:37:34,930
compass direction where I would expect

689
00:37:40,849 --> 00:37:38,109
to be and I found it the the solace on

690
00:37:43,470 --> 00:37:40,859
earth is beautifully preserved and the

691
00:37:45,870 --> 00:37:43,480
Stewart International Airport and our

692
00:37:48,359 --> 00:37:45,880
Army and Air Force Base is built on top

693
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:48,369
of it and it's well preserved along with

694
00:37:53,849 --> 00:37:51,609
its satellite mouth okay that's that

695
00:37:57,660 --> 00:37:53,859
congestive a coincidence I thought let

696
00:38:00,359 --> 00:37:57,670
me then go for the you know the big one

697
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:00,369
the face let's see if the face is still

698
00:38:04,830 --> 00:38:02,890
existing on earth so I went off in that

699
00:38:08,670 --> 00:38:04,840
direction I had my topographic sheets

700
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:08,680
all pieced together and my ruler down

701
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:14,050
there I oaklands geologist Jim of Javik

702
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:17,680
had sent me a map that he had created

703
00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:20,050
for the cydonia complex on Mars and I

704
00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:22,630
was able to measure the the direction

705
00:38:29,490 --> 00:38:26,260
and the distance and when my ruler

706
00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:29,500
measuring came to an end I was staring

707
00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:32,200
at a face on earth that was the mirror

708
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:34,990
image of that on Mars I mean it even

709
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:37,090
though it's it's highly eroded you can

710
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:38,650
still make out the forehead the eye

711
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:41,440
sockets the nose the mouth the chin etc

712
00:38:46,349 --> 00:38:44,290
it's all there and it's in the exact

713
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:46,359
right position where it should be a

714
00:38:50,970 --> 00:38:48,730
factor taking a point I said oh my god

715
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:50,980
let me go let's try to find the DNN

716
00:38:54,990 --> 00:38:53,290
pyramid which I realized would have been

717
00:38:57,540 --> 00:38:55,000
toppled because that pyramid would been

718
00:39:00,060 --> 00:38:57,550
close to you know twice the height of

719
00:39:04,349 --> 00:39:00,070
the Giza pyramids have been around a

720
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:04,359
thousand feet tall and I wouldn't my

721
00:39:08,970 --> 00:39:06,970
when I laid it out and look for an area

722
00:39:12,510 --> 00:39:08,980
where that the pyramid base could be I

723
00:39:14,370 --> 00:39:12,520
found it near Warwick new journey York

724
00:39:17,730 --> 00:39:14,380
and it was the right size right

725
00:39:21,420 --> 00:39:17,740
orientation five sided area that was

726
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:21,430
between mountains and hills in the you

727
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:23,920
appeal River Valley then I said okay let

728
00:39:29,250 --> 00:39:26,250
me go try to find the city of pyramids

729
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:29,260
lo and behold I found them I found that

730
00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:33,040
the Pine Island was built on the base of

731
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:35,680
a six sided pyramid in the that in on

732
00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:39,520
Mars is the largest six sided pyramid in

733
00:39:47,010 --> 00:39:42,430
that city of pyramids and so we have a

734
00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:47,020
whole town built on top of a

735
00:39:52,370 --> 00:39:50,260
face of what could be a huge pyramid

736
00:39:58,260 --> 00:39:52,380
that existed at that point before the

737
00:40:01,580 --> 00:39:58,270
glaciers removed and I did a a major

738
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:01,590
website which is now on the bouffant

739
00:40:07,950 --> 00:40:05,110
website over in the UK it's called a

740
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:07,960
Cydonia to report and it's had quite a

741
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:10,930
history of up and down but the

742
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:14,410
information is still there what concerns

743
00:40:21,090 --> 00:40:17,310
me Ryan is that very few people have

744
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:21,100
recognized this as as being significant

745
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:24,570
or important and it almost seems to

746
00:40:32,540 --> 00:40:28,330
speak of of individual egos of people

747
00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:32,550
that don't want me to undercut their own

748
00:40:41,370 --> 00:40:36,910
expertise and authority on on this

749
00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:41,380
because the implications are that these

750
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:45,430
Cydonia complex on Mars is a copy of the

751
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:46,330
one on earth

752
00:40:53,220 --> 00:40:50,110
that was built when the civilization

753
00:40:59,250 --> 00:40:53,230
that existed on earth before the last

754
00:41:01,830 --> 00:40:59,260
ice age began began to realize that the

755
00:41:05,370 --> 00:41:01,840
ice age would destroy their monuments in

756
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:05,380
in New York so they built a template a

757
00:41:13,860 --> 00:41:08,710
duplicate on Mars so that when we get a

758
00:41:17,340 --> 00:41:13,870
recover from our destruction of that

759
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:17,350
civilization and get back to exploring

760
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:20,650
our solar system with with probes we

761
00:41:25,980 --> 00:41:23,530
would discover that complex and low ball

762
00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:25,990
that's exactly what I recognized and

763
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:28,720
used to find all of the remnants of

764
00:41:36,090 --> 00:41:32,610
those monuments here on earth so really

765
00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:36,100
did we come from Mars or did Martians

766
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:38,740
come from us which is which which came

767
00:41:44,610 --> 00:41:41,890
first I was able to date the cydonia

768
00:41:46,850 --> 00:41:44,620
complex on earth when it or what on the

769
00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:46,860
one on Mars when I was built based on

770
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:51,730
tectonic plate movement and the distance

771
00:41:57,820 --> 00:41:54,850
that of the center of the craters on

772
00:42:01,690 --> 00:41:57,830
both are just enough

773
00:42:04,690 --> 00:42:01,700
a part that I was able to as estimate

774
00:42:07,930 --> 00:42:04,700
that the one on Mars was built right

775
00:42:10,690 --> 00:42:07,940
before the end of the last interglacial

776
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:10,700
Demian interglacial about a hundred and

777
00:42:15,790 --> 00:42:12,410
eighteen thousand five hundred years ago

778
00:42:20,020 --> 00:42:15,800
so everything is fitting into a an

779
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:20,030
amazing connection you still there it

780
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:22,370
really is it's fascinating absolutely

781
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:24,650
I'm fascinated by the amount of research

782
00:42:29,110 --> 00:42:27,170
you put into these subjects that in my

783
00:42:32,050 --> 00:42:29,120
opinion are the most important of our

784
00:42:34,450 --> 00:42:32,060
time Bruce kudos there's so many

785
00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:34,460
directions I could go here but I wanted

786
00:42:40,660 --> 00:42:38,600
to ask you back to the possibility of

787
00:42:46,030 --> 00:42:40,670
hybridization is there a possibility

788
00:42:51,250 --> 00:42:46,040
were all hybrids absolutely I think we

789
00:42:55,390 --> 00:42:51,260
all have DNA that did not come from our

790
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:55,400
primate origins I think that we are of

791
00:43:00,220 --> 00:42:57,290
primate origins which is why there is

792
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:00,230
such a close connection a genetic

793
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:03,200
connection between us and chimpanzees

794
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:07,450
and apes etc but you know that the

795
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:10,850
functional genes in our 46 chromosomes

796
00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:14,170
are very few compared to the number of

797
00:43:20,290 --> 00:43:17,350
genes that don't seem to have any

798
00:43:27,090 --> 00:43:20,300
function so where did they come from and

799
00:43:29,650 --> 00:43:27,100
why there's a lot of room for including

800
00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:29,660
non-human DNA and now they're finding

801
00:43:37,420 --> 00:43:33,460
these you know Long's called

802
00:43:40,690 --> 00:43:37,430
individuals in baracus and in other

803
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:40,700
places of the world and getting DNA

804
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:44,570
results from them that show that there

805
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:47,690
they were not 100% human there were

806
00:43:54,460 --> 00:43:51,770
other types of DNA genes in in those

807
00:43:56,590 --> 00:43:54,470
individuals and and so the question

808
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:56,600
becomes where did those come from we're

809
00:44:03,190 --> 00:43:58,880
still in the dark as far as how many

810
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:03,200
different types of humanoid homo species

811
00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:06,170
existed in the past so you can't yet

812
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:08,990
rule out that they were not just hybrids

813
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:11,010
between different

814
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:13,710
types of hominid species that had

815
00:44:20,860 --> 00:44:16,110
evolved on earth but at the same time

816
00:44:24,250 --> 00:44:20,870
one has to wonder why their their DNA

817
00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:24,260
corresponds in practice with those in

818
00:44:32,750 --> 00:44:30,470
the in Central Asia in in Europe and in

819
00:44:37,070 --> 00:44:32,760
Scotland where they're finding were

820
00:44:39,260 --> 00:44:37,080
humans DNA you know is very similar how

821
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:39,270
did they get there all the way across

822
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:42,720
the Atlantic Ocean at a time when we

823
00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:44,730
supposedly according to the

824
00:44:51,830 --> 00:44:48,480
archaeologist we're not traversing the

825
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:51,840
the seas but of course that is that that

826
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:54,240
paradigm is is collapsing now that

827
00:44:59,590 --> 00:44:55,680
they're finding more and more evidence

828
00:45:03,260 --> 00:44:59,600
that our ancestors before the sextant

829
00:45:05,540 --> 00:45:03,270
were able to get across the oceans quite

830
00:45:09,310 --> 00:45:05,550
quite well and find their way around to

831
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:09,320
various islands in the Pacific and that

832
00:45:16,490 --> 00:45:12,930
European DNA has been found in colonies

833
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:16,500
or remnants of humans our groups on the

834
00:45:22,060 --> 00:45:18,450
east coast and they're finding more

835
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:22,070
evidence that there are other types of

836
00:45:29,810 --> 00:45:26,880
Asians that made it over to the Americas

837
00:45:31,460 --> 00:45:29,820
including Africans or the Olmecs in the

838
00:45:36,830 --> 00:45:31,470
Central America where did they come from

839
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:36,840
so my my word is one of caution that we

840
00:45:40,820 --> 00:45:38,850
do not have enough evidence yet to

841
00:45:45,460 --> 00:45:40,830
really know what was going on in the

842
00:45:48,110 --> 00:45:45,470
past and to think that there were no

843
00:45:53,390 --> 00:45:48,120
advanced high-tech civilizations in the

844
00:45:57,110 --> 00:45:53,400
past is is just blatant ignorance on

845
00:46:01,960 --> 00:45:57,120
those peoples part that we've been told

846
00:46:04,310 --> 00:46:01,970
in in ancient literature and that human

847
00:46:05,450 --> 00:46:04,320
civilizations have gone through cycles

848
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:05,460
after some pickles

849
00:46:12,590 --> 00:46:08,610
after cycles and now more and more

850
00:46:15,110 --> 00:46:12,600
evidence is coming up to support that so

851
00:46:19,070 --> 00:46:15,120
that we've gone through boom and bust a

852
00:46:20,540 --> 00:46:19,080
periods of high-tech spacefaring and

853
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:20,550
then back to

854
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:23,130
hunting gathering and living in caves

855
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:30,089
over and over again yes and so much of

856
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:32,010
what you're saying is resonating with me

857
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:36,000
that I'm yeah I I just I have so many

858
00:46:40,099 --> 00:46:38,010
questions but we're on such a limited

859
00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:40,109
time schedule let me ask you you

860
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:41,910
mentioned the something I'm fascinated

861
00:46:47,839 --> 00:46:44,910
by is the magnetic anomalies underground

862
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:47,849
and you know many many different people

863
00:46:54,109 --> 00:46:50,490
have mentioned this with connections to

864
00:46:58,210 --> 00:46:54,119
the Anunnaki with D um bees or deep

865
00:47:03,140 --> 00:46:58,220
underground military bases in your

866
00:47:06,290 --> 00:47:03,150
opinion is there a possibility that we

867
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:06,300
or those who govern us more likely our

868
00:47:12,770 --> 00:47:09,170
governments are working together with

869
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:12,780
possible non-human entities in some of

870
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:15,930
these locations very good question a

871
00:47:21,020 --> 00:47:19,170
very relevant question today one of the

872
00:47:23,839 --> 00:47:21,030
problems I had when I was in the field

873
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:23,849
working with all of the sightings I had

874
00:47:28,849 --> 00:47:26,490
over a hundred and thirty seven close

875
00:47:31,130 --> 00:47:28,859
encounters with these ships and they

876
00:47:33,770 --> 00:47:31,140
were many of them were you could see the

877
00:47:36,020 --> 00:47:33,780
physical shapes the the angular shapes

878
00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:36,030
of these from triangles to

879
00:47:43,310 --> 00:47:40,200
diamond-shaped and you could see that

880
00:47:47,060 --> 00:47:43,320
they had in a physical component to them

881
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:47,070
even though I also did an experiments

882
00:47:52,460 --> 00:47:49,650
that showed that the images that we

883
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:52,470
can't captured both visually and with

884
00:47:59,540 --> 00:47:56,810
our other cameras could be manipulated

885
00:48:05,390 --> 00:47:59,550
so that they could present to us what

886
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:05,400
they wanted us to see and excuse me so

887
00:48:12,109 --> 00:48:09,210
the question became how far advanced are

888
00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:12,119
we in our own technology that we could

889
00:48:17,450 --> 00:48:15,270
do what they are doing and when I would

890
00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:17,460
see actually photograph these large

891
00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:21,000
ships the size of a 747 diving through a

892
00:48:25,579 --> 00:48:22,830
forest without interacting with the

893
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:25,589
trees and disappearing below ground what

894
00:48:31,130 --> 00:48:28,050
the heck if we have that type of

895
00:48:33,150 --> 00:48:31,140
technology why do we still use rockets

896
00:48:37,529 --> 00:48:33,160
you know I mean this is this

897
00:48:40,770 --> 00:48:37,539
absurd so but then you get all of this

898
00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:40,780
this disinformation coming out of about

899
00:48:43,710 --> 00:48:42,880
us having this technology about

900
00:48:46,859 --> 00:48:43,720
skunkworks

901
00:48:51,089 --> 00:48:46,869
having triangular craft that can fly and

902
00:48:54,180 --> 00:48:51,099
and in discussing this with dr. Jack

903
00:48:58,980 --> 00:48:54,190
Safari especially on an interview which

904
00:49:01,770 --> 00:48:58,990
was on Star Drive report about couple

905
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:01,780
months ago the the thing that he pointed

906
00:49:09,180 --> 00:49:05,920
out is that the triangular craft are do

907
00:49:10,740 --> 00:49:09,190
not operate you know their propulsion

908
00:49:14,099 --> 00:49:10,750
system is very different from that of

909
00:49:16,910 --> 00:49:14,109
the tic-tac and that is now being

910
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:16,920
revealed to the Stars Academy and and

911
00:49:25,890 --> 00:49:22,480
1/18 etc this is important because the

912
00:49:26,789 --> 00:49:25,900
if you have multiple ways of defying

913
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:26,799
gravity

914
00:49:34,220 --> 00:49:30,930
okay the implication is that our

915
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:34,230
government and secret military has

916
00:49:42,059 --> 00:49:37,450
achieved success in some of these areas

917
00:49:45,180 --> 00:49:42,069
but not in all of them and so if the

918
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:45,190
question I had in the field are these

919
00:49:53,069 --> 00:49:48,960
things that I'm seeing merely government

920
00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:53,079
sponsored entertainment for the sky

921
00:49:58,620 --> 00:49:56,319
watchers in rural roads around Pine Bush

922
00:50:01,170 --> 00:49:58,630
and I had to come to the conclusion no

923
00:50:04,410 --> 00:50:01,180
no these are quite different but then

924
00:50:06,779 --> 00:50:04,420
you have these communities living

925
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:06,789
underground and I've identified several

926
00:50:12,359 --> 00:50:09,450
areas where there were underground bases

927
00:50:14,210 --> 00:50:12,369
doesn't them our CIA doesn't our

928
00:50:17,579 --> 00:50:14,220
government already know about them and

929
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:17,589
and that the amazing thing is that many

930
00:50:23,940 --> 00:50:20,319
people I've witnessed said that they see

931
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:23,950
have encountered humans coming out of

932
00:50:29,970 --> 00:50:27,970
the ground and out of tunnels and

933
00:50:33,569 --> 00:50:29,980
opening up hatches and coming out where

934
00:50:38,460 --> 00:50:33,579
these bases are located so one has to

935
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:38,470
ask the question are we cooperating with

936
00:50:44,220 --> 00:50:40,690
them or are they cooperating with us I

937
00:50:45,930 --> 00:50:44,230
mean when you have a huge military

938
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:45,940
complex in the wall care

939
00:50:52,260 --> 00:50:50,170
Valley at Stewart Airport and then you

940
00:50:55,770 --> 00:50:52,270
have an underground base that is a very

941
00:51:00,030 --> 00:50:55,780
extensive that it extends for many tens

942
00:51:02,630 --> 00:51:00,040
of miles not hundreds of miles how in

943
00:51:05,579 --> 00:51:02,640
the world could they coexist in the same

944
00:51:08,490 --> 00:51:05,589
space so to speak without knowing of

945
00:51:10,290 --> 00:51:08,500
each other's existence and with bits and

946
00:51:14,609 --> 00:51:10,300
pieces of information that have come out

947
00:51:17,250 --> 00:51:14,619
from various sources my suspicion is

948
00:51:20,670 --> 00:51:17,260
that they are very well aware of what's

949
00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:20,680
going on with these underground BTW

950
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:24,400
groups and they may in fact not be

951
00:51:30,420 --> 00:51:27,130
working some divisions within our

952
00:51:32,579 --> 00:51:30,430
military may be working with them we

953
00:51:37,950 --> 00:51:32,589
keep on hearing this information from

954
00:51:40,650 --> 00:51:37,960
various sources so I I don't have a a

955
00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:40,660
confirm confirm the answer on this

956
00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:46,000
mm-hmm I just have a suspicion mm-hmm it

957
00:51:51,329 --> 00:51:48,400
would only make sense right no right

958
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:51,339
there one of the objectives of our

959
00:51:59,390 --> 00:51:54,970
military would be to make contact and to

960
00:52:02,579 --> 00:51:59,400
get cooperation and even though the the

961
00:52:04,740 --> 00:52:02,589
nonhumans may be giving sharing some of

962
00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:04,750
their information they're not in sharing

963
00:52:10,650 --> 00:52:07,359
the most critical information that we

964
00:52:13,620 --> 00:52:10,660
could turn into weapons so that's one of

965
00:52:17,099 --> 00:52:13,630
the big differences that there has to be

966
00:52:22,170 --> 00:52:17,109
a separation of these technologies

967
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:22,180
otherwise our you know and another thing

968
00:52:27,780 --> 00:52:24,730
that the military would want that ciat

969
00:52:30,359 --> 00:52:27,790
would want to do is to get us to pretend

970
00:52:32,370 --> 00:52:30,369
that these ships that are being seen by

971
00:52:36,210 --> 00:52:32,380
hundreds of people in the Pine Bush area

972
00:52:39,809 --> 00:52:36,220
during the 1990s thousands of people in

973
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:39,819
fact that they somehow were connected to

974
00:52:45,630 --> 00:52:43,810
our secret military hardware because

975
00:52:50,670 --> 00:52:45,640
they wouldn't want our enemies to know

976
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:50,680
that they had this technology right

977
00:52:57,980 --> 00:52:54,310
mm-hmm that would make us an even

978
00:53:01,760 --> 00:52:57,990
greater threat to Russia and China

979
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:01,770
if we had this technology just as a

980
00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:05,130
recent article I saw coming out of the

981
00:53:09,370 --> 00:53:06,720
rations are admitting that they have

982
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:09,380
some of this technology themselves and

983
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:14,010
so eventually it's going to have to come

984
00:53:19,010 --> 00:53:16,130
out that we are all I've been

985
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:19,020
researching and studying this phenomena

986
00:53:28,460 --> 00:53:23,970
and that oh it gets very complicated

987
00:53:33,020 --> 00:53:28,470
very fast it does I'm I'm very intrigued

988
00:53:35,180 --> 00:53:33,030
by by the the aspects like you mentioned

989
00:53:38,599 --> 00:53:35,190
with a lot of these you ApS UFOs and

990
00:53:40,579 --> 00:53:38,609
aerial phenomena how many observers and

991
00:53:43,070 --> 00:53:40,589
this is everywhere from the Uintah Basin

992
00:53:45,890 --> 00:53:43,080
of Utah across the globe a lot of these

993
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:45,900
craft as you mentioned are seen flying

994
00:53:52,210 --> 00:53:49,410
directly into ridgelines directly into

995
00:53:58,579 --> 00:53:52,220
structures directly into the ground and

996
00:54:01,490 --> 00:53:58,589
is this a scenario where our rules just

997
00:54:05,630 --> 00:54:01,500
don't apply to them or could it be more

998
00:54:08,660 --> 00:54:05,640
of a live projection Project Blue Beam

999
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:08,670
type scenario well I've thought about

1000
00:54:15,140 --> 00:54:11,910
that is this all just illusion you know

1001
00:54:18,050 --> 00:54:15,150
that's what they are wanting is to think

1002
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:18,060
in belief and one can never rule that

1003
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:21,570
out but at the same time I have been

1004
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:25,410
abducted and back in 1981 at my drill

1005
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:29,609
site and my crew saw that solved me

1006
00:54:32,180 --> 00:54:30,510
being abducted

1007
00:54:34,460 --> 00:54:32,190
they found me missing and they saw me

1008
00:54:40,339 --> 00:54:34,470
bring being brought back and when I was

1009
00:54:43,390 --> 00:54:40,349
hypnotically regress I recalled how they

1010
00:54:46,339 --> 00:54:43,400
touched my head with a wand and a

1011
00:54:50,530 --> 00:54:46,349
vibration went through me and suddenly I

1012
00:54:54,620 --> 00:54:50,540
was no longer part of the matter of this

1013
00:54:56,660 --> 00:54:54,630
world and they just passed me through

1014
00:54:59,780 --> 00:54:56,670
the wall of this trailer along with

1015
00:55:02,839 --> 00:54:59,790
themselves and so and that freaked me

1016
00:55:04,550 --> 00:55:02,849
out when I recalled that seeing the the

1017
00:55:07,359 --> 00:55:04,560
physical wall of this trailer passed

1018
00:55:10,430 --> 00:55:07,369
through my body and not even feel it so

1019
00:55:13,490 --> 00:55:10,440
they have this technology of

1020
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:13,500
of changing the vibrational nuclear

1021
00:55:20,890 --> 00:55:17,010
frequencies of atoms so that they no

1022
00:55:24,799 --> 00:55:20,900
longer recognize the atoms of our

1023
00:55:26,930 --> 00:55:24,809
material world and that is how they can

1024
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:26,940
pass through the ground into their

1025
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:30,450
underground bases is that they no longer

1026
00:55:35,779 --> 00:55:33,119
are part of this world there you could

1027
00:55:39,289 --> 00:55:35,789
call them interdimensional are quasi

1028
00:55:43,220 --> 00:55:39,299
dimensional that they just sidestep the

1029
00:55:46,609 --> 00:55:43,230
issue of interaction with our matter and

1030
00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:46,619
yet this interaction sometimes is

1031
00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:48,809
incomplete and that's one of the reasons

1032
00:55:56,059 --> 00:55:53,510
why we have like the Derrel Sims finding

1033
00:55:59,599 --> 00:55:56,069
fingerprints or handprints or body

1034
00:56:02,770 --> 00:55:59,609
prints on doors and walls of where the

1035
00:56:05,630 --> 00:56:02,780
ETS passed through them they hadn't been

1036
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:05,640
completely separated or isolated from

1037
00:56:10,460 --> 00:56:07,890
our matter and thus they interacted with

1038
00:56:16,130 --> 00:56:10,470
it a little bit and left a residue that

1039
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:16,140
could be studied and so I don't think

1040
00:56:22,910 --> 00:56:18,480
it's an illusion I think they're very

1041
00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:22,920
much capable of disappearing into a

1042
00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:24,809
parallel dimension or creating a

1043
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:26,910
parallel dimension where they can hide

1044
00:56:31,819 --> 00:56:28,529
and that's how they could cloak

1045
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:31,829
themselves and disappear and maybe only

1046
00:56:39,279 --> 00:56:34,770
their lights we would see where as their

1047
00:56:42,250 --> 00:56:39,289
physical ships were invisible

1048
00:56:44,809 --> 00:56:42,260
fascinating hey I'm glad that you really

1049
00:56:51,220 --> 00:56:44,819
spoke and brought up the vibration

1050
00:56:55,099 --> 00:56:51,230
aspect because in speaking with another

1051
00:56:56,839 --> 00:56:55,109
person who worked in really side by side

1052
00:57:02,150 --> 00:56:56,849
with you they had mentioned to me at one

1053
00:57:04,730 --> 00:57:02,160
point that certain Hertz and certain

1054
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:04,740
vibrations were more effective when

1055
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:07,890
trying to visualize these these entities

1056
00:57:12,769 --> 00:57:11,010
and it reminds me so much of the

1057
00:57:16,130 --> 00:57:12,779
hermetic law of vibration that

1058
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:16,140
everything has a different vibration and

1059
00:57:21,740 --> 00:57:19,410
III just I could totally see how this

1060
00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:21,750
especially dealing with something that

1061
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:23,440
is able to do that would

1062
00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:27,520
would be explicable by that form exactly

1063
00:57:36,750 --> 00:57:32,710
and on another that this is one that is

1064
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:36,760
it gets a lot of Attraction online this

1065
00:57:42,029 --> 00:57:40,240
is just came out yesterday and I'm sure

1066
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:42,039
you're aware of it you're very in the

1067
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:46,000
know Bruce this older alien autopsy

1068
00:57:50,599 --> 00:57:48,880
video and then someone has leaked in

1069
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:50,609
some way shape or form email

1070
00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:52,480
communications between different

1071
00:57:59,250 --> 00:57:56,049
individuals and they're trying to find a

1072
00:58:03,299 --> 00:57:59,260
correlation or verify something I'm

1073
00:58:05,730 --> 00:58:03,309
fairly sure that the alien autopsy video

1074
00:58:08,670 --> 00:58:05,740
that most of us are familiar with may

1075
00:58:11,099 --> 00:58:08,680
not be a complete or exactly legitimate

1076
00:58:12,510 --> 00:58:11,109
or perfect picture of what is being

1077
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:12,520
communicated in these email

1078
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:13,930
communications I'm wondering if you've

1079
00:58:17,940 --> 00:58:16,000
heard anything about this or seen

1080
00:58:21,539 --> 00:58:17,950
anything about this online and what your

1081
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:21,549
opinion would be on this okay

1082
00:58:26,549 --> 00:58:24,160
I've seen a little bit of it and but

1083
00:58:29,010 --> 00:58:26,559
then back when the alien autopsy videos

1084
00:58:30,510 --> 00:58:29,020
came out there was a lot of debate all

1085
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:30,520
the way from one extreme to the other

1086
00:58:37,529 --> 00:58:34,480
that it was all fake you know special

1087
00:58:38,250 --> 00:58:37,539
effects by people who worked with the

1088
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:38,260
Hollow

1089
00:58:44,819 --> 00:58:42,250
Hollywood film industry and also that it

1090
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:44,829
could actually be real there were just a

1091
00:58:49,589 --> 00:58:46,960
lot of pieces of evidence that somebody

1092
00:58:53,609 --> 00:58:49,599
wanted us to think that these and this

1093
00:58:58,170 --> 00:58:53,619
these aliens bodies were real that is

1094
00:59:02,190 --> 00:58:58,180
obvious but at the same time was this in

1095
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:02,200
order to you know pull the rug out from

1096
00:59:07,620 --> 00:59:05,200
under us so that it would get people to

1097
00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:07,630
say oh yes it's real they are real and

1098
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:10,720
then they'd suddenly reveal the the fake

1099
00:59:16,650 --> 00:59:14,049
aspects of it but then again the

1100
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:16,660
disinformation groups that don't want

1101
00:59:25,099 --> 00:59:20,650
people to accept this as reality would

1102
00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:25,109
want to go to that extent to create

1103
00:59:31,170 --> 00:59:28,240
questions in our minds but one thing

1104
00:59:33,980 --> 00:59:31,180
that stands out with all of this Ryan is

1105
00:59:35,940 --> 00:59:33,990
that in 1990 before I had any

1106
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:35,950
information on

1107
00:59:42,660 --> 00:59:38,050
the UFOs are even knew that I had I was

1108
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:42,670
an abductee I saw a TV program when I

1109
00:59:52,650 --> 00:59:47,610
was living in New York with my family in

1110
00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:52,660
Middletown that was stunning I couldn't

1111
00:59:57,300 --> 00:59:54,190
believe that they were showing this and

1112
01:00:01,290 --> 00:59:57,310
like 1 or 2 a.m. in the morning and it

1113
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:01,300
was a documentary on an alien autopsy in

1114
01:00:08,310 --> 01:00:05,530
which they showed x-rays and diagrams of

1115
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:08,320
the internal organs and these two people

1116
01:00:17,130 --> 01:00:11,650
were talking very intelligently about

1117
01:00:19,470 --> 01:00:17,140
this being a real organism that they had

1118
01:00:22,140 --> 01:00:19,480
studied and they were presenting this

1119
01:00:23,820 --> 01:00:22,150
information to the public but at a time

1120
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:23,830
when very few people would be watching

1121
01:00:32,910 --> 01:00:27,610
and and that was surprising was like

1122
01:00:35,660 --> 01:00:32,920
this was one of the first shows in order

1123
01:00:40,350 --> 01:00:35,670
to try to get this information out and

1124
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:40,360
prepare the public for considering that

1125
01:00:46,110 --> 01:00:42,490
you know there are other humanoids on

1126
01:00:48,590 --> 01:00:46,120
this planet that are not human and don't

1127
01:00:51,180 --> 01:00:48,600
look human I mean I've heard a lot of

1128
01:00:54,030 --> 01:00:51,190
interesting subjects I mean Linda

1129
01:00:57,110 --> 01:00:54,040
Moulton Howe has access to a tremendous

1130
01:01:01,770 --> 01:00:57,120
amount of information on on leaked

1131
01:01:04,860 --> 01:01:01,780
stories about these ETS and a lot of it

1132
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:04,870
intercepted you know question about well

1133
01:01:09,270 --> 01:01:07,330
where's the evidence let's see the

1134
01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:09,280
evidence yes we have these people saying

1135
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:12,310
that some of the greys don't even have a

1136
01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:15,130
digestive tract or a mouth or or you

1137
01:01:20,490 --> 01:01:17,280
know have ears or anything like that and

1138
01:01:23,850 --> 01:01:20,500
how do they operate how do how were they

1139
01:01:28,350 --> 01:01:23,860
energized by what type of system are

1140
01:01:32,490 --> 01:01:28,360
they just robots so there are a lot of

1141
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:32,500
questions we have yet to answer and my

1142
01:01:38,340 --> 01:01:36,160
mind realization is that disclosure is

1143
01:01:40,550 --> 01:01:38,350
going to have to be a drip drip drip

1144
01:01:44,850 --> 01:01:40,560
because there's just simply so much

1145
01:01:47,340 --> 01:01:44,860
information out there and once it

1146
01:01:49,470 --> 01:01:47,350
reaches a certain threshold of people

1147
01:01:52,230 --> 01:01:49,480
accepting that this phenom

1148
01:01:55,050 --> 01:01:52,240
is real we're going to get fewer and

1149
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:55,060
fewer skeptics although you can easily

1150
01:02:00,450 --> 01:01:58,240
pick out a skeptic by strongly and

1151
01:02:08,069 --> 01:02:00,460
emotionally he fights against the

1152
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:08,079
acceptance of certain data and this is

1153
01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:11,050
true so far as far as the alien autopsy

1154
01:02:20,609 --> 01:02:15,520
I don't know I must admit that back in

1155
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:20,619
1995 I was featured in a the first issue

1156
01:02:26,609 --> 01:02:23,530
of a journal called encounters first and

1157
01:02:31,609 --> 01:02:26,619
on the front of it the it shows the

1158
01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:31,619
picture of that alien so I'm forever now

1159
01:02:42,290 --> 01:02:35,680
connected to that image of the alien

1160
01:02:45,660 --> 01:02:42,300
autopsy so me there it goes and I'm I

1161
01:02:47,460 --> 01:02:45,670
have to go back to this disinfo you know

1162
01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:47,470
people hear this term and I don't think

1163
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:49,839
they realize that this is one of the

1164
01:02:56,849 --> 01:02:54,089
most powerful tools in the tool set that

1165
01:02:59,579 --> 01:02:56,859
those in positions of power are using

1166
01:03:03,000 --> 01:02:59,589
instead of getting an agenda crossed on

1167
01:03:05,730 --> 01:03:03,010
its own merits it's much easier to take

1168
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:05,740
the other agenda and put out a very hack

1169
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:07,810
job if you will something that can

1170
01:03:13,230 --> 01:03:10,930
easily be debunked and then you

1171
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:13,240
automatically gain traction for the

1172
01:03:22,740 --> 01:03:18,240
agenda you're working at right and and I

1173
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:22,750
it's just it's just such a powerful tool

1174
01:03:30,660 --> 01:03:25,810
in the tool set of the elite or the

1175
01:03:34,829 --> 01:03:30,670
governing powers and it's I feel like

1176
01:03:37,650 --> 01:03:34,839
we're all aware that it happens from

1177
01:03:39,390 --> 01:03:37,660
time to time but we don't you know when

1178
01:03:41,339 --> 01:03:39,400
I speak to people like yourself and

1179
01:03:44,309 --> 01:03:41,349
individuals who really know how things

1180
01:03:48,740 --> 01:03:44,319
work in my opinion you understand just

1181
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:55,500
okay this tends to happen when you have

1182
01:04:09,140 --> 01:03:57,530
these conversations of

1183
01:04:15,410 --> 01:04:12,289
hopefully we hear back okay Larry I'm

1184
01:04:17,779 --> 01:04:15,420
glad you're back um going off of that I

1185
01:04:21,140 --> 01:04:17,789
also wanted to speak a little bit more

1186
01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:21,150
about the Lockheed recently has had an

1187
01:04:26,539 --> 01:04:23,849
actual partnership that's been rumored

1188
01:04:30,049 --> 01:04:26,549
with the T TSA or the to the Stars

1189
01:04:33,589 --> 01:04:30,059
Academy in a limited capacity which I

1190
01:04:36,349 --> 01:04:33,599
found very interesting and and and of

1191
01:04:38,660 --> 01:04:36,359
course my initial response was well this

1192
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:38,670
could be what tom has alluded to that

1193
01:04:43,539 --> 01:04:41,130
they plan on actually reverse

1194
01:04:46,279 --> 01:04:43,549
engineering a craft with the help of

1195
01:04:48,650 --> 01:04:46,289
individuals with the right connections

1196
01:04:55,460 --> 01:04:48,660
and they have alloys from fallen space

1197
01:04:58,039 --> 01:04:55,470
craft or non earthly metals and I

1198
01:05:02,680 --> 01:04:58,049
believe arts parts is actually one that

1199
01:05:05,420 --> 01:05:02,690
is undeniably been accepted by multiple

1200
01:05:08,019 --> 01:05:05,430
organizations as being legitimate so

1201
01:05:12,230 --> 01:05:08,029
there's some validation there is

1202
01:05:14,779 --> 01:05:12,240
Lockheed going to be able to actually do

1203
01:05:18,349 --> 01:05:14,789
this is this just something that a lot

1204
01:05:23,359 --> 01:05:18,359
of people are anticipating and hoping

1205
01:05:25,700 --> 01:05:23,369
for well first off as I said earlier on

1206
01:05:33,220 --> 01:05:25,710
in our interview is that there are two

1207
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:33,230
more than one way of neutralizing or

1208
01:05:39,650 --> 01:05:37,170
gaining lift without against gravity

1209
01:05:42,140 --> 01:05:39,660
okay it's not there's just not one

1210
01:05:44,690 --> 01:05:42,150
single way apparently there are multiple

1211
01:05:48,890 --> 01:05:44,700
different mechanisms and technologies

1212
01:05:55,009 --> 01:05:48,900
that can achieve this but the one thing

1213
01:05:57,460 --> 01:05:55,019
that you know that I do know is well

1214
01:06:02,150 --> 01:05:57,470
what Jack's if addy told me he said that

1215
01:06:05,319 --> 01:06:02,160
the tr-3b that is supposedly was

1216
01:06:10,309 --> 01:06:05,329
developed by the Lockheed skunkworks

1217
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:10,319
does exist it is functional and whereas

1218
01:06:16,519 --> 01:06:12,930
it's not what the tic-tac is that was

1219
01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:16,529
viewed playing games with the fighter

1220
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:17,760
pilots

1221
01:06:23,590 --> 01:06:22,170
of the you know Navy and that they

1222
01:06:27,470 --> 01:06:23,600
operate on completely different

1223
01:06:30,530 --> 01:06:27,480
principles that the hull of the tic-tac

1224
01:06:33,290 --> 01:06:30,540
based on material supposedly recovered

1225
01:06:37,370 --> 01:06:33,300
from the Roswell crash is a meta

1226
01:06:40,910 --> 01:06:37,380
material of micro layered elements and

1227
01:06:46,130 --> 01:06:40,920
alternating layers that it literally has

1228
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:46,140
the effect of slowing light down to zero

1229
01:06:51,050 --> 01:06:48,960
and with that when one slate it is not a

1230
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:51,060
we're not talking about the absorption

1231
01:06:56,180 --> 01:06:53,970
of photons we're talking about slowing

1232
01:07:00,670 --> 01:06:56,190
the speed of light down to zero that

1233
01:07:04,670 --> 01:07:00,680
gravity goes to zero within these

1234
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:04,680
metamaterial hulls of the ship and that

1235
01:07:10,460 --> 01:07:07,290
it just changes everything and and

1236
01:07:13,220 --> 01:07:10,470
isolates these shifts from our reality

1237
01:07:15,859 --> 01:07:13,230
much in the same way we I was discussing

1238
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:15,869
earlier about how they can change the

1239
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:19,890
frequency of everything and pass me

1240
01:07:28,340 --> 01:07:24,690
through a wall of a trailer they can do

1241
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:28,350
this with these meta material halls and

1242
01:07:36,830 --> 01:07:33,690
one of the ways that I was able to come

1243
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:36,840
up with so what JAXA Farley called a

1244
01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:40,170
smoking gun was when I recorded the

1245
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:42,240
sounds that these craft made most of

1246
01:07:47,330 --> 01:07:44,010
these graphs do not have to make any

1247
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:47,340
sound and don't make any sound but the

1248
01:07:53,180 --> 01:07:49,530
one thing that they did in their

1249
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:53,190
performances at Pine Bush was to Bruce

1250
01:07:59,359 --> 01:07:56,250
sounds like that of a jet engine and

1251
01:08:01,670 --> 01:07:59,369
tried to mimic the nighttime lighting

1252
01:08:05,180 --> 01:08:01,680
patterns the navigation lights of jets

1253
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:05,190
and we would fly over us and most of the

1254
01:08:09,620 --> 01:08:07,410
people there that were witness to this -

1255
01:08:12,590 --> 01:08:09,630
oh it's just a jet and I that fooled me

1256
01:08:14,690 --> 01:08:12,600
a lot too when I recorded this material

1257
01:08:17,539 --> 01:08:14,700
so did Ellen Crystal and through the

1258
01:08:20,329 --> 01:08:17,549
audio recordings we found discovered

1259
01:08:23,019 --> 01:08:20,339
that you have reversed Doppler the

1260
01:08:26,690 --> 01:08:23,029
Doppler effect is beautifully reversed

1261
01:08:30,110 --> 01:08:26,700
and this is not normal this is very

1262
01:08:31,819 --> 01:08:30,120
anomalous how this happens and what they

1263
01:08:36,229 --> 01:08:31,829
have found out through

1264
01:08:40,179 --> 01:08:36,239
with the developing metamaterials made

1265
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:40,189
up of many different micro layers and

1266
01:08:46,879 --> 01:08:43,489
elements is that these meta materials

1267
01:08:50,259 --> 01:08:46,889
cause sound to reverse and you have a

1268
01:08:55,009 --> 01:08:50,269
reverse Doppler effect so the there's a

1269
01:08:58,640 --> 01:08:55,019
connection here that when it I was

1270
01:09:01,249 --> 01:08:58,650
recording these sounds that to the human

1271
01:09:03,890 --> 01:09:01,259
ears sounded like maybe a turbofan jet

1272
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:03,900
engine but then I looked at the the

1273
01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:08,329
whole spectrogram it wasn't the sounds

1274
01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:11,369
sound frequencies were composed of

1275
01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:14,880
multiple separate bands as many as 10 to

1276
01:09:19,489 --> 01:09:17,279
12 individual frequencies bundled

1277
01:09:21,169 --> 01:09:19,499
together and that these the frequency

1278
01:09:24,529 --> 01:09:21,179
overall frequency of these bands

1279
01:09:27,769 --> 01:09:24,539
decreased as the of the sound source

1280
01:09:30,019 --> 01:09:27,779
approached the microphone and after it

1281
01:09:32,649 --> 01:09:30,029
passed over and was moving away the

1282
01:09:35,029 --> 01:09:32,659
sound of frequencies increased as the

1283
01:09:38,359 --> 01:09:35,039
sound source moved further and further

1284
01:09:41,779 --> 01:09:38,369
away and I have many many recordings

1285
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:41,789
like this and this is what Jack Safari

1286
01:09:49,099 --> 01:09:46,130
said is indication that the ships had

1287
01:09:51,919 --> 01:09:49,109
metamaterial halls and that they were

1288
01:09:56,799 --> 01:09:51,929
operating much like the tick tack and

1289
01:09:59,659 --> 01:09:56,809
the way their capability but the tr-3b

1290
01:10:04,640 --> 01:09:59,669
now that's an interesting and a story

1291
01:10:07,370 --> 01:10:04,650
because on the 17th of May 1997 three of

1292
01:10:09,770 --> 01:10:07,380
us were positioned on muddy kill Lane

1293
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:09,780
waiting for something to happen and it

1294
01:10:16,459 --> 01:10:12,719
did we were given a performance by a

1295
01:10:20,419 --> 01:10:16,469
triangular craft and recorded on both

1296
01:10:25,609 --> 01:10:20,429
video and on time exposures I have a

1297
01:10:27,409 --> 01:10:25,619
whole website on it that later that Mark

1298
01:10:30,739 --> 01:10:27,419
Whitford who is one of the people there

1299
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:30,749
he is an a naval veteran he said in one

1300
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:32,610
of his contacts called him up and told

1301
01:10:36,890 --> 01:10:34,530
him that we had been given a

1302
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:36,900
demonstration of the performance of the

1303
01:10:44,030 --> 01:10:40,530
tr-3b it had been authorized by the

1304
01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:44,040
government and that that a

1305
01:10:49,580 --> 01:10:46,560
skunkworks pilot would give us a

1306
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:49,590
demonstration of it and if you can

1307
01:10:56,420 --> 01:10:52,320
believe that that's pretty amazing if

1308
01:11:00,140 --> 01:10:56,430
indeed that video that is on line shows

1309
01:11:02,930 --> 01:11:00,150
the tr-3b and what it's capable of doing

1310
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:02,940
and how its able to rotate and upside

1311
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:05,730
down and fly way upside down and

1312
01:11:10,340 --> 01:11:07,170
backwards and then flip over and

1313
01:11:13,340 --> 01:11:10,350
decrease in speed as it's moving down

1314
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:13,350
its ascending towards the ground and all

1315
01:11:17,090 --> 01:11:15,210
of these other things that it's able was

1316
01:11:22,660 --> 01:11:17,100
able to do and it was all caught on

1317
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:22,670
video so then that raises question okay

1318
01:11:30,410 --> 01:11:29,370
what is well what technology exactly wow

1319
01:11:33,260 --> 01:11:30,420
man

1320
01:11:36,440 --> 01:11:33,270
Bruce this is I'm just speechless at a

1321
01:11:39,260 --> 01:11:36,450
lot of this and I feel we're all so very

1322
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:39,270
lucky to have you disseminate the the

1323
01:11:42,830 --> 01:11:41,010
rigorous research that you've dedicated

1324
01:11:44,270 --> 01:11:42,840
much of your life to I really appreciate

1325
01:11:50,330 --> 01:11:44,280
you being with us for the last hour

1326
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:50,340
Bruce and thank you where can people

1327
01:11:54,260 --> 01:11:52,170
find more of your work research

1328
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:54,270
contributions and support your efforts

1329
01:12:00,920 --> 01:11:57,210
websites books at cetera right now I

1330
01:12:03,890 --> 01:12:00,930
have a number of websites out there you

1331
01:12:08,350 --> 01:12:03,900
just have to do google Bruce cornet and

1332
01:12:10,910 --> 01:12:08,360
look for a long with internet or my

1333
01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:10,920
website you know and and click on there

1334
01:12:17,180 --> 01:12:12,450
and there are links to many different

1335
01:12:19,310 --> 01:12:17,190
webpages at that point and I have one

1336
01:12:24,110 --> 01:12:19,320
called serious onion works that you can

1337
01:12:26,780 --> 01:12:24,120
do that and come up with my webpages but

1338
01:12:28,820 --> 01:12:26,790
I'm in the middle of finalizing the

1339
01:12:33,290 --> 01:12:28,830
final editing on a book that I've just

1340
01:12:36,890 --> 01:12:33,300
completed it's about three 386 pages

1341
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:36,900
long and it's unfortunately it's going

1342
01:12:43,070 --> 01:12:38,730
to be in black and white and probably

1343
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:43,080
published by Kindle or an Amazon and I

1344
01:12:49,670 --> 01:12:46,890
also have a an appendix associated with

1345
01:12:52,220 --> 01:12:49,680
that and leaked so the people can copy

1346
01:12:55,480 --> 01:12:52,230
the link in the book when it comes out

1347
01:12:58,890 --> 01:12:55,490
and go to my online site

1348
01:13:03,250 --> 01:12:58,900
over 300 pages of a listing of all my

1349
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:03,260
sightings and documented by date time

1350
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:07,730
location and what it involved and the

1351
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:10,250
witnesses that were present and you're

1352
01:13:17,580 --> 01:13:13,520
dealing with a total of 141 encounters

1353
01:13:21,370 --> 01:13:17,590
and over a period of 11 years so that's

1354
01:13:25,180 --> 01:13:21,380
gonna be my all of my data out there for

1355
01:13:26,620 --> 01:13:25,190
everybody to see and to ponder what the

1356
01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:26,630
heck's going on here

1357
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:29,360
I mean why were these crafts and lights

1358
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:32,810
putting on such shows time and time

1359
01:13:37,930 --> 01:13:35,330
again for my cameras and for other sky

1360
01:13:40,210 --> 01:13:37,940
watchers out there it you know that's a

1361
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:40,220
big question is what was this was this

1362
01:13:46,570 --> 01:13:44,090
part of the ete disclosure independent

1363
01:13:49,570 --> 01:13:46,580
of government that's another interesting

1364
01:13:50,980 --> 01:13:49,580
question I mean we even had I was out

1365
01:13:55,540 --> 01:13:50,990
there in the field with Ellen Crystal

1366
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:55,550
for many times many nights and she was

1367
01:14:02,260 --> 01:13:58,010
contacted by the sightings television

1368
01:14:07,090 --> 01:14:02,270
series at the time 1993 and on the 29th

1369
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:07,100
of April 1993 with the sightings TV

1370
01:14:12,250 --> 01:14:10,370
camera crew out there with us we had six

1371
01:14:14,830 --> 01:14:12,260
ships put on performances for those

1372
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:14,840
cameras I mean they came at us flipped

1373
01:14:20,230 --> 01:14:17,570
over past us right over the top some of

1374
01:14:20,890 --> 01:14:20,240
us curved back down and disappeared into

1375
01:14:23,590 --> 01:14:20,900
the ground

1376
01:14:26,650 --> 01:14:23,600
okay time and time again doing right

1377
01:14:29,740 --> 01:14:26,660
angle turns the manta ray as a came at

1378
01:14:33,130 --> 01:14:29,750
us banked towards us and passed in front

1379
01:14:34,090 --> 01:14:33,140
of us at 29 miles per hour 30 miles an

1380
01:14:38,770 --> 01:14:34,100
hour at the most

1381
01:14:40,930 --> 01:14:38,780
with it's a flat shape vertical to the

1382
01:14:44,230 --> 01:14:40,940
ground so it couldn't have been a

1383
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:44,240
conventional air aircraft because planes

1384
01:14:48,970 --> 01:14:46,370
can't fly with their wings vertical to

1385
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:48,980
the ground and it passed us was

1386
01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:51,770
screaming all sorts of turbine sounds

1387
01:14:57,220 --> 01:14:53,840
and putting out all sorts of lights and

1388
01:15:00,370 --> 01:14:57,230
the sad part about this ride was that

1389
01:15:02,580 --> 01:15:00,380
the show when it came up only had one

1390
01:15:05,530 --> 01:15:02,590
still photograph of that Manta gray

1391
01:15:06,980 --> 01:15:05,540
displayed on the show they had the

1392
01:15:11,380 --> 01:15:06,990
entire video

1393
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:11,390
of what happened but it was probably too

1394
01:15:17,150 --> 01:15:14,130
extreme and they thought for the

1395
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:17,160
American public or more likely the

1396
01:15:22,910 --> 01:15:19,370
government said don't show it

1397
01:15:26,300 --> 01:15:22,920
Wow Wow

1398
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:26,310
so amazing well thank you so much Bruce

1399
01:15:29,690 --> 01:15:28,170
you are a master of your craft I just

1400
01:15:34,610 --> 01:15:29,700
want to thank you again for being with

1401
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:34,620
us thank you Bruce Cornett ladies and

1402
01:15:39,860 --> 01:15:37,290
gentlemen definitely support his work

1403
01:15:41,300 --> 01:15:39,870
he's he's done a lot of it thank you so

1404
01:15:43,940 --> 01:15:41,310
much for being with us

1405
01:15:46,730 --> 01:15:43,950
sorry I kept him for about 20 minutes

1406
01:15:48,740 --> 01:15:46,740
over but I think it was definitely worth

1407
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:48,750
it then I appreciate him staying on with